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- {subhead} Editorial{def}
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- By Chris Seward
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- Hello and welcome to issue 21 of Amiga Information Online. Like last
- issue i've decided to talk about something topical or something that
- maybe of some interest to you the readers. Normally i'd start with
- introducing you to the magazine and then talk about whats been happening
- with the magazine over the past month, this is all set to change and
- as long as I can find some interesting topics to talk about each
- month i'll either sum up whats been happening in the Amiga world or
- write about a specific topic. I'll also be keeping you up to date on
- whats new in AIO and some of the best bits to look out for.
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- This month i've decided to talk about the recent problems with
- clickBOOM and the so called programmer or team who got ripped off
- by them. Before I even start what I have to say i'd like to state that
- I am not taking any side but mearly looking into what each party
- says and coming up with possible truths about what could or may
- have happend to let this whole thing blow up.
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- For those of you who have not yet heard, clickBOOM have been accused
- of taking advantage of certain Serbian programmers and then not paying
- them for their work on Capital Punishment or Myst. The story is that
- a person called Djordje Djurdjevic has written a text stating that he
- worked on Myst and did nearly all of the code for the Amiga version,
- his payment was very little accourding to the text that he wrote. The
- main proof he has is that he says he has hidden a secret text file inside
- a Myst picture, which can be found in,
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- {bold}Myst:GFX/Myst/Vault_controlpanel_(buttn).pic{nobold}
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- The text is said to be hidden in a way that some text is in serbian,
- some in english and some in french, the result when decoded gives you
- a text stating that Djordje Djurdjevic had worked on Myst but not been
- given any credit and little payment for his work and that is why he
- stored the text inside the file. I have seen this text that was hidden
- in the file but could not say yet at this early date if it came from
- the picture that Djordje Djurdjevic claims it is in or not.
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- I have been asked by clickBOOM not to release the text written by
- Djordje Djurdjevic and so currently I will not be putting the file in
- the magazine for you to read until the truth is out and settled by
- a court which clickBOOM will currently be taking up the matter in.
- If the text is found inside the picture then this can be very bad
- for clickBOOM indeed. Not all of what the writter (Djordje Djurdjevic)
- of the text has to be true but if he did manage to hide a secret
- file inside one of the pictures then the rest of the story he tells
- will probably be believed instantly. As well as the text hidden in the
- file there are two other text files floating around, one is a full
- story on how the head of clickBOOM has cheated various people over
- a period of time and it goes back to when clickBOOM started. This text
- is 51k long and has obviously taken someone a great deal of time
- to write and if not true to think it all up would be quite a long
- and boring task. This leaves the question, why would anyone go to
- such lenghts to write so much if he wasn't telling the truth. The second
- text claims to be from the other former members of clickBOOM which
- back up what Djordje Djurdjevic states in his texts.
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- In the longest text where the main story is Djordje Djurdjevic says that
- if you check out the LHA keyfile in Capital Punishment you will see that
- it is a pirtated copy and that clickBOOM use mostly pirated software
- even though they say they are totally against it. I have been unable
- to check out if this is true or not because I do not have a copy of
- CP to see the keyfile. Other statements Djordje Djurdjevic makes in his
- story is that magazines where bribed to give CP a higher score than
- in should. If this is the case why didn't clickBOOM bribe magazines
- to give Myst a high score? after all they did need to convince Cyan
- it was worth converting and with Myst 2 being released on Mac/PC
- there was a chance that it could also be ported to the Amiga in future,
- surely clickBOOM would want this chance and if they had bribed people
- to give CP a high score then I'm sure they would try to bribe people
- to give higher scores to Myst. AIO did not review CP but when we did
- review Myst shortly after release I can assure you 100% that clickBOOM
- in no way tried to alter my decision on what the game would be rated.
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- There seem to be a number of possible reasons why someone could do this
- to a company that is doing very successful in the Amiga market. clickBOOM
- have alot to thank especially with porting Quake and Myst to the Amiga
- it has opened the eyes of some non-believers and companys like ID Soft
- and Cyan have seen what the Amiga is capeable of. Maybe Djordje Djurdjevic
- had a bad experience with clickBOOM in another way, maybe bad service
- but it all seems to be a bit extreme for something like that. In each
- text there could be some truth which could be honestly accounted for
- by clickBOOM and the writter has blown everything up to make his side
- look better. The group he is in now could be doing this as and act to
- get publicity for their group. On the last hand it could all be truth
- or all lies, who knows and does it really matter?
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- Obviously we would all feel angry that people who care for the Amiga
- have been ripped off but the Amiga as a whole does not need this at
- the moment and it shouldn't effect anything. Djordje Djurdjevic should
- have timed this alot better and now is not the time to start arguing
- over things. If it is true then of course he should take action but
- not in the way he has done, he should have gone through the correct
- channels and at the time he claims all this to have happened he should
- have taken a legal route. Now it seems he has landed himself a court
- battle and that is the last thing anyone wants. Overall does this
- change your view or attitude? do you think it will effect the sales
- of Napalm? My personal views are staying private until the time is
- right and I will let you know what my honest view is when all truth
- is released.
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- {bold}UPDATE 20/2/99{nobold}
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- As of today I have received two emails one from clickBOOM and one from
- the team, Juice. I had emailed them both to find out some more information
- and on this day of release I give you the latest news.
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- clickBOOM have told me that yes, they admit there is a file on the Myst
- CD, so that suggests that Djordje Djurdjevic would have had access to the
- source code {bold}but{nobold} they deny that what he has said in the text
- is true and they will prove this in a court of law.
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- The second piece of information comes from the Juice team, below you will
- find a few questions I asked them.
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- {bold}Name?{nobold}
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- juice team
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- {bold}Why did you now come forward?{nobold}
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- This is one of the most common questions we've been asked the last few days.
- We were all very disappointed after our team was cheated and it was too painful
- for us to think more about it. We just wanted to forget about it. In the mean time
- we realised that the name of our ex-team became very famous but nobody actually
- knew anything about us, it's former members. We had to react and tell people
- the true story about us.
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- {bold}Is there any small clip of code you can show us now from Myst or
- CP that will prove that you produced the game?{nobold}
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- You obviously aren't a programmer :) A small clip of code wouldn't prove anything
- just as well as a small graphic clip of one of the characters of Capital Punishment,
- for example wouldn't prove anything - it could be ripped from the game.
- However, we have all the development material of Capital Punishment and the
- development stages of Myst code (about 70% of it). Please keep in mind that
- Myst was not finished by any of the former members of our team and therefore the
- final code might not look exactly like the code we have, but there shouldn't be
- any important changes on the basic structure of the engine.
- As that material is very important, we can't make it public.
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- {bold}What are your feelings that clickBOOM are going to court with you
- or members of your team?{nobold}
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- The problem is that we know that we are right, and we know that it all
- happened the way you were able to read in the text from Djordje.
- Being accused for revealing the truth to the public isn't something anybody
- would like. clickBOOM could have contacted us and perhaps we could find out an
- agreement that would be acceptable for both of us ?
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- {bold}If this goes to court and you loose are you likely to give in on
- your quest to expose clickBOOM if what you say is true?{nobold}
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- We are sorry, but our knowledge of english is limited. We are not sure
- what means the expression "to give in". Does it mean "continue" ?
- What would be the purpose of our giving in ? If the law is on their side
- we can't work against it. But that would, once again, prove that the law
- doesn't have much in common with the justice.
- Please, keep in mind that our intention was not to expose clickBOOM to
- persuade everybody to stop buying their software. We think that people
- should decide what to do themselves. If they like clickBOOM games, and
- don't pay attention to what some people had gone through to make those
- games, then they should buy them.
- This is something that every user should decide for himself.
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- {bold}Any other evidence that will back-up your claim?{nobold}
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- Well, as a computer user, you should know that all the computer data is
- very easily moved, erased, changed without a trace of the previous version.
- Which means, that kind of evidence can't be 100% reliable. What kind of
- evidence would you like us to show out ?
- However, all our evidence is not just the computer data. Many people who live
- here can confirm our story. Of course we are not asking you to come here and
- check out:)
- Aleksandar Petrovic could confirm our story (well, most of it) but he surely
- won't do so. We understand that.
- This is a matter of trust. If the hidden files on Myst CD aren't enough
- for anybody to realise that there was something quite strange regarding the
- development of the game, if people don't find strange that an original game
- isn't signed by it's creators, then we think there's no need to try to tell
- out the truth.
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- We would like to thank all people for e-mails of support, and to apologize to
- all which we didn't have time to answer
- (we will as soon as we get some free time).
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- You can check our home page at:{p}
- {link http://www.net.yu/~juice}http://www.net.yu/~juice{end}